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make it STOP - Ambar
August 3rd, 2001
11:29 pm

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make it STOP
There's an ongoing flamefest on one of the Doberman lists, with some newbie who's decided that defending one of the big commercial breeders is what she most wants to do in life, and all the show breeders who actually spend time and money on health testing jumping her ass.

No one is going to budge positions at this point. No one is going to be educated; they've all picked positions and will hold on with teeth and toenails. It's the same petty crap I hated on Fanciers, all over again.

I had a pleasant phone conversation with another Turkish Angora breeder tonight, one I've never been particularly close to, but we're on civil terms and there are maybe four of us breeding TAs on the west coast now. She would like to breed to one of my males. We got on the subject of why I wasn't doing much with the cats any more, and I told her straight up that the armed-camp atmosphere among TA breeders was one of the things I hate about the cat fancy. You don't like my cats or what I do with them, fine. But don't go telling me what I "have" to do in order to work with you because someone ELSE won't speak to you/buy cats from you/say nice things about you to judges if you don't. Make your own goddamn decisions and live by them, up front and in public.

Not that the lady I was talking to has done any of this to me -- she and Debbie dislike each other from way back, but I gave up "you're not my friend because my friend doesn't like you" back in grade school. Got into too many fights that way.

But I have had arrangements to lease cats or whatnot go awry because half-way through making the shipping arrangements I was suddenly informed of another half-dozen new conditions on the deal because some gossip was going around that deeply concerned the other person. To which I say pish and tosh. If someone else's loose tongue can get you that upset, stay home and take up knitting.

This has been an unscheduled rant.

Current Mood: pissed offpissed off

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From:lothie
Date:August 4th, 2001 10:44 am (UTC)
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OH yeah.
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From:cougarpants
Date:August 4th, 2001 03:50 pm (UTC)
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All I can say to this is AMEN.

I don't breed dogs or cats, but this sounds ever so familiar when it comes to the Walking horse breeders I used to deal with back home. And my opinion is that if you can't meet me, view my horses and make up your own mind, then I have serious doubts about you being able to use your brain enough to care for the animals your breed properly in the first place.

I never cared much for breeder politics. I cared about breeding a fit and sound horse that I could enjoy the companionship of during my and it's lifetime.

Sounds like cat and dog breeding is the same crap just a different species.
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From:ambar
Date:August 5th, 2001 04:47 pm (UTC)
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In fairness, I should say that the newbie on the Doberman list both a) finally caught a clue, and b) had the guts to say so. A rare thing indeed.

Ambar
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From:cougarpants
Date:August 5th, 2001 06:40 pm (UTC)
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Congratulations then, it's a rare thing. Though, again to be fair, I'm a jaded old grump most of the time. I'm just now getting back into horses after a decade of no access due to money/location. So, maybe, while I was gone, everyone got nice.. it could happen.
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